Forgive them, for they know not

Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.

It would have been so much easier if it was all evil. But not all of it was evil.
What makes it all so complex and difficult, is some of it was very good. And this is where grief comes in for the loss which is unfathomable.

Some of it brought life and changed us. Some brought chains and bondage.
And so honoring the good part, the reason many of us are where we are in this spiritual journey, is because the Lord has used the very same people we question today. Many of us came to the Lord and He ministered to us through these very people.
The Lord has used these people, despite of…..(and you can name all the things here)

The Lord will have the last say. And where the courts and legal powers are involved will have their say as well.

In closing, Jesus died for us and rose again from the dead, and is now with the Father, making intercession for us. You and I have now direct access to the Fathers heart through our Saviour and King Jesus. No man or woman can represent you, but Jesus. And because your are created in His own unique image, no man or woman can understand you, but Jesus. He created you and finds great delight in your thoughts and hearts desires. He wants nothing more than to hear your voice.

And this is the end of this blog.

 

– THE END –

37 thoughts on “Forgive them, for they know not

    • Goddess2015 says:

      Your book was really awesome BTW:)
      I really could connect in more ways than one.
      I didn’t think it was evil or slanderous at all.
      It’s basically like a sweet fairy tail version,
      if ever compared to mine! LOL
      Xoxoxo

  1. Gail Batke says:

    I know lots of people thought this was my blog, it was not, nor do I know who’s it was. I think this will show up and if so KNOW that although I did not read much on here due to the overwhelming traffic on my own message boards and email accounts if I post something it is the truth just like my book, For The Sake of The Children and my attorney assures me there is no defense greater than the truth. Remember we live in the United States of America and You have rights DON’T ALLOW EVIL TO RULE! Let your voice be heard!!!!

  2. Gail Batke says:

    Something to ponder is, What exactly was good? I’ve heard well the blood, fire and water. That’s the foundation and that is good. Is it? You want to go back to a type and a shadow instead of the fulfillment, Jesus? Ponder in your prayer time on that. Sometimes the smallest step in the right direction ends up being the biggest step of your life. It takes more courage to give up your beliefs that you have held true all your life when they have been proven false, than to blindly defend them. Do you want to study and concentrate on the shadow of your spouse or loved one or do you want to embrace the real thing? People she put us under the law from the beginning and that my friends is BAD. She set out to build herself a kingdom, she succeeded at any cost, BUT, you no longer have to be in bondage to one sliver of that kingdom period. I pray she repents and finds the real Jesus that I serve. The one she pointed us to was nailed on a cross with the law shining brightly in front, NOT an empty tomb. If we leave Jesus on the cross that he despised and endured then we make the resurrection of non-effect which is the SOLE reason to believe Jesus was who He said He was, HE AROSE!! And contrary to her teaching of recent years He will not be BLOODY throughout eternity. And contrary to her January ‘Jesus did it Jesus did it’ ranting, Jesus did NOT molest one single child, Jesus did not cause the person to molest the child, Jesus did NOT have sex with anothers spouse, and Jesus did NOT cause that person to have sex outside the marriage. THATS THE DEVIL people wake UP!. How much clearer can it be that Bernice Richards Hicks sounds like an anti christ would sound. Twist our Lord and savior into that!! Someone said to me, ‘But if you believe He’s the head over all things then in reality it was Him’ Oh my Lord in Heaven above. God is NOT the head OF all things no more than YOU are the head OF all the things your children do or don’t do. READ YOUR BIBLE and stop drinking the kool-aide seriously. If the ‘baby’ is ‘Rosemary’s baby’ (reference to the movie as a spawn of Satan) YES throw it out WITH the dirty bath water! Contaminated truth is no longer truth. Allow the Holy Spirit to Lead Guide and Direct YOU into all truth. Remember all you need is your daily bread and a little extra on the week end 🙂

    • humble says:

      The lord I serve is omnipresent omnipotent omniscient. He is the head of all things. He is the beginning of all beginnings. He has done so much miraculous things. God permits things to happen to them in order to test them. We need to be tested in order to overcome, humble ourselves, seek God, and have a testimony. Prime example from the bible is the book of Job. So yes I believe God is the head of all things, including the things you have mention. I will not give the devil no credit because in order for the devil to do what he does he has to get permission from God. Also shown in the book of Job.

  3. Nancy Priest says:

    Thank you Gail! That was totally anointed. Be sure to keep those words and use them again. They are from the Spirit of God and will definitely set the captive free. Amen!

  4. James says:

    It is interesting that she came out of Branhams Tabernacle.

    Some similarities:

    His ministry is called “The Message” or “The Message of the Hour”
    He claimed to be the one to get the Bride ready for the Rapture.
    He claimed to have an Angel that revealed things to him. (BRH claims Jesus)
    He told his followers to ‘put it on the shelf’ if they had questions/concerns.
    He told his followers it ‘was his way or the highway’. (Door swings both ways?)
    Branham’s Tabernacle had a Pentagram on it’s building for many years, don’t know if it still does or not. CGC uses a Hexagram as it’s logo. Both are witchcraft symbols.

    I recently found a couple of sites, and an FB page about Branham that sounds EXACTLY like what is going on at CGC. Perhaps someone could start and FB page to discuss actual doctrinal issues.

    Check out this one: https://www.facebook.com/BelieveTheSign?fref=nf

    • Just sayin says:

      Rev. Hicks uses far more Bible based teachings than Branham… The two don’t really relate at all. Branham has been dead for YEARS.

      • reallyconcerned1 says:

        Just Sayin,Go Google check out Clarance Larkin’s teaching & charts. When you do there’s a three fold nature chart in his teachings & a chart very similar to the Tabernacle. This man came out with his teachings in the early 1900’s.I thought these were all revelations that were given to BRH?

      • Just sayin says:

        Really concerned… Not more than one person can have the same revelation? I think God the willing. Not sure if you are aware but Rev. Hicks did not ever CLAIM to be the only one with truth revealed. She did however place copyrights on some of the material so that she could continue to use the material… Clearly you need to do more to discredit BRH… Keep trying!

  5. James says:

    Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil * you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Strong’s Greek Definition for # 4812
    4812 // sulagwgew // sulagogeo // soo-lag-ogue-eh’-o //
    from the base of 4813 and (the reduplicated form of) 71 ; v

    AV – spoil 1; 1
    1b) to lead away from the truth and subject to one’s sway

    Strong’s Greek Definition for # 5385
    5385 // filosofia // philosophia // fil-os-of-ee’-ah //
    from 5386 ; TDNT – 9:172,1269; n f

    AV – philosophy 1; 1
    1) love of wisdom *******
    1a) used either of zeal for or skill in any art or science, any branch of knowledge. Used once in the NT of the theology, or rather theosophy, of certain Jewish Christian ascetics, which busied itself with refined and speculative inquiries into the
    nature and classes of angels, **** into the ritual of the Mosaic law and the regulations of Jewish tradition respecting practical life ******

  6. James says:

    BR Hicks teaches her congregation that they are “spiritual Jews”…

    The Word of God says:
    in Colossians
    3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
    3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
    3:11 *****Where there is neither Greek nor Jew*****,
    ,circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

    Galatians 3:28 ******There is neither Jew nor Greek******, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    • just sayin says:

      James you are a funny one… you have no real proof and what you found is relatively weak to discredit BRH… what a joke! And for the record… you really ought to factually be able to back up conflicts better than that…clearly the Bible is speaking in racial terms which is physical attributes, language, skin color, and as you say BRH is teaching that her members are “spiritual” Jews… DUH!! your investigative skills fall WAY too short… clearly YOUR listening skills and reading comprehension skills are far below par my funny ignorant foe…

  7. Just sayin says:

    Spiritual Jews?? I have never heard her refer to members as Spiritual Jews… You are as they say “reaching”…

    • Loving Life says:

      Actually Just Sayin what James is saying is correct. She has said this different times over the years. If anyone out there still has google search for sermons, please post a quote for the rest to see and believe.

  8. James says:

    It appears your listening skills match your reading comprehension skills… or lack thereof, should I say. 🙂

    Shooo fly, don’t bother me….

  9. Gail Batke says:

    Is ‘Just Sayin’ attempting to defend or refute a well know easy to verify comment of Hicks about ‘Jews’. James your scripture was spot on. If ‘Just Sayin’ is pro-Hicks, it would do you and her a favor if you kept your comments at least kind. To not is to validate the very point of this site.

  10. Gail Batke says:

    Why this site ‘closed down’ is a question on a lot of minds. Those who care and love wish to extend a big thanks for a job well done as well as encouragement that IF it was in any way due to threats of law suits you should consider the source. One thing I learned in life, you are what you consistently do. One who consistently teaches, a teacher, one who paints, a painter, one who sells, a sales person and one who lies, a liar.

  11. RatFinder says:

    Hey “JustSating” I cal you out as a liar, an Impostor, a Whiner, and a trouble making agitator. The page you posted above for everyone to go visit is a cheap imitation of this original excgcmember page but with YOUR personal thoughts added. You are a SNAKE and a Deceiver. Nothing else you say has any meaning to anyone on here. Your actions have killed your words. As Bro Delbert Brooks used to say……(I can’t hear what your saying, for seeing what you are doing) YOU CLOWN.

  12. Gail Batke says:

    Came back to show love to ‘Just Sayiin’. Anger being a secondary emotion, one can then determine perhaps the first with you is fear. I understand that and offer a prayer for you my brother or sister which ever you are. I have NO belief or comment saying Hicks is the antichrist I simply pointed out words that ‘sound’ like antichrist. Big Biblical difference. Anti simply means against and when anyone makes statements to degrade the Jesus of the Holy Bible, I and I think most followers of Jesus would agree, deem that as against who He really was and is. We must walk in a manner that would bring honor and glory to the Jesus of the Bible which is the Jesus that I serve and those who actually know me and my 60years on the planet can testify of the fruit of my life as being one who follows the teachings of Jesus of the Bible. I offer you my sincere apology for any wrong I may have done to YOU in life. Not knowing who you are I can’t be specific but I do know for many I, like Saul/Paul of the Bible, chopped off some heads with my zeal for God prior to my encounter with grace. The motives of my heart then as now was good as I didn’t want people to go to hell or miss the rapture for cutting their hair, wearing pants, not praying 30 before church, not being at every service and all the ‘legalistic list’ to which I was adhering. My heart and motives remain pure and to that extent I stand ready to meet any and all persons who would desire to pray together in a neutral location asking OUR Heavenly Father for His light to shine into our hearts.

  13. Child of the King says:

    Whoa…Gail has every right to post her opinions and beliefs as much as you do “Just Sayin'” & at least she’s woman enough to post who she is. Your personal attack on her shows you while you may support Rev. Hicks & the Message, you may want to brush up on how Christ instructed us to treat others. While I don’t agree 100% with Gail (as my experience with CGC has been anything but harmful) I love her as a sister in Christ I’ve never even met. Maybe focusing on loving & being compassionate instead of judging or defending would get us all further along in our spiritual journies & walks with the Lord.

  14. Bobbie Gail says:

    Just saying sweetie do you ever reread what you write? If all names were removed and only substance left where would anger be found. May the Hod of peace be with you😍

  15. reallyconcerned1 says:

    Just Sayin all your doing attack, attack in anger. We are making statements. I made statement & Gail made statements. What if we have been mislead all these years? I believe God loves us to show us the truth. Why is it always some big mystery? We cannot question ? I’ve had questions for along time . I’ve kept them to myself. Are we to follow blindly? We cannot think for ourselves? I will tell you the message has always been way over my head. I’ve never understood” put it on shelf ” theory. We have serious questions about the message & the messenger. The last time I checked we do have a 1st amendment. If we make statements you want to tear us down with our words.

  16. Bobbie Gail says:

    Thank you Child of The King maybe we can meet one day and worship Our Father together. I surely must have done something personal to Just Sayin that I’m unaware cause I can’t imagine anyone I know ever saying the things he/she is to me. It’s sad not because I’m unlined but that my honest existence bothers one to that degree😢

  17. Pray for Unity says:

    Just Sayin,
    It’s probably time to pipe down. I am sure CGC would not want you to be their spokesperson as you know just enough to sound ignorant. How can one be swayed to your way of thinking when you lash out in anger to people who feel they have been betrayed? I have been in and around CGC for 36 years and still have friends and family in it. I personally don’t go anymore, and I do believe there is corruption at the top. Don’t get me wrong, there are some great people in CGC. The local CGC pastor is the most “real” person I know and I respect that. People are concerned and feel they have been misled for MANY years, that is why this blog started. May God’s love and compassion be with all of the people who have commented and to those that are just observing this blog. Please pray that we all are at peace with our individual spiritual lives (including me). Thank you in advance.

  18. James says:

    BR Hicks teaches that Jesus did not come to earth in human form, that he came in a ‘specially prepared body’ that was not human; that the word ‘human’ is not in the Bible. (See LiveStream from April 24th about 44 minutes in, I’ve also heard it myself in various sermons.

    No, the word human is not in the bible, but the Bible tells us that HE DID COME IN THE FLESH of a man, look up the word in your concordance, it is perfectly congruent with the word human.

    1 John 4:2-3 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
    And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

    2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

    Can someone please explain how this teaching does not contradict the Word of God?

  19. Newsflash says:

    Seriously, guys? Why would it alarm you people that BRH had taught her “flock” that they were spiritual Jews? The BIBLE teaches that the circumcised of heart is a spiritual Jew. Time to go back to Sunday school!

    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28,29)

    Being circumcised of heart makes one a true Jew, spiritually speaking. You guys didn’t know this already?? So why is it heresy for BRH to teach her parishioners that if they are circumcised of heart they are spiritual Jews? It’s patently scriptural.

  20. Newsflash says:

    Seriously, guys? Why would it alarm you people that BRH had taught her “flock” that they were spiritual Jews? The BIBLE teaches that the circumcised of heart is a spiritual Jew. Time to go back to Sunday school!

    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Romans 2:28,29)

    Being circumcised of heart makes one a true Jew, spiritually speaking. How have some of you been traveling so long and didn’t know this? So why is it heresy for BRH to teach her parishioners that if they are circumcised of heart they are spiritual Jews? It’s patently scriptural.

  21. Lanab says:

    B.r hicks was my “leader” for 2& years and I viciously defended her and “the message” every time the opportunity arose. I have a deep understanding of what she teaches and have worked many correspondence courses. She is practicing witchcraft. She is a sexual predator and allows her ministers the same leeway. I was drawn into a very deceitful and manipulated relationship with a minister at Christ gospel and this minister was in the national and international board of directors. He allowed me access to ALL email accounts of his all text messages and t o be able to listen in during board members as well as telling me lots and lots of very sensitive information. Him and his wife both shared many instances of nasty hateful behavior. Sexually deviant behavior, witchcraft, a complete lack of value for a human life. And a willingness tongi to any extreme to cover up a mistake… Even the unthinkable. I am saddened and devastated by how deceived we have all been but I know what I’m talking About a little better than I wish i did. And she is not what she pretends to be.

  22. Talita says:

    I attended CGC for 3 months here in South Africa. I left when Hicks said Christ Gospel Church stands for 666, because nothing belongs to Satan, not even 666. Without question the congregation applauded Hicks. I was shocked. I prayed and asked Jesus to show me the truth, that night I had a dream. I dreamt the pastor of our CGC church was dressed like the devil (horns everything) spitting out lies and lies. In the dream my mother pleaded with me to listen to the lies. I woke up in a panic and I knew God told me to get away.

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